AUDIO: Gary Parrish & Geoff Calkins discuss Memphis Tigers Attendance in 2016-17

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AUDIO: Gary Parrish & Geoff Calkins discuss Memphis Tigers Attendance in 2016-17

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Yup rocket jump Dawkins nobody bought tiger basketball game what are we to do. More people last year or earlier or not an average announced it's just call my shot the ball at the upbeat Bob. Our but it actually so they're not why I edited aggressively but it could actual people who are error. Pick up it was technically be slightly up is that true. Yeah the actual number apparent about Bob's self editing a book here's a needle length that you to a market out course of a cup. The largest is great dog from an independent whatever forty company's dependence advocate attended essentially. Ed Baird over the last whatever five years since 2012 I think. I. And this specific in 2013 or fourteen they had announced attendance of 161001. When he warned that ranked tenth in the country three years later which was this past year. And one coaching change later. Average announced it did it's 9622. That ranks 46 in the country it's dropped by nearly 7000. Ticket sale yet it's great. Greater attendance devastating. To everybody concerned that Federer though you if you can't put you know yet what looked at Bubba that devastated and. The other people who want Obama likes Puerto part mindset. Well and you you know that you got to contribute about technical work well well well the first year 2013. Property and it was good yeah. Could we did whenever I'm near to that point yep you know I hit it secretly I understand because we are ultimately. More competition whatever else. But there are drugs you apply. When they were off them and because people were also actually play out so. Probably really the problem about a program ironically most of the crater in. The lead I would promote the crater happen on draft. That's simply true. And in terms of actual turned out and then all of the greater cap an underdog after applied for everything else we argue about them or not it's light at the end. It we all knew it was time for the just faster air to adhere once ordinary LP people I want your help. And and then that the with with respect to copy of the problem area is. What people wanted you to get a ball. You know that's that you should get laid you at a ball like what you what you love like doc and development strategy to have a program judge pastor is gone people are secular. Cruel people can come back all. Yep we got marginally. Small Bloomberg slightly. Greater number of people wanted to print out but it was very small number or what took turns out. And when you're paying your liberated you know finally crushed car everything else. You should've gotten a huge. Welling up in Vietnam that brought you know 2000 more people a game back and it's simply didn't there really was no real cubby bump and the I would protect although I'm not open toward I would predict it probably. Next year the turnstile will be lower than it was to get a one up at. But I and that's the problem Britain universe it's slightly you know it's it's it's it's that there is develop struggle but it sort of underdog not responsible course that dotted. And then probably just a little bit quicker and pat. Nobody has ever pretended that it didn't start would Josh this decline in attendance in both ticket sales and butts in seats you're exactly right though. We knew then rid yourself of the person that the fan base has lost enthusiasm for. You're supposed to been replaced him with somebody who creates excitement and it and provides hope. Either with on the court results. Or amazing recruiting results and that simply has not been the case they paid a million dollars to make a coach the fan base it like any more goal way. And didn't rule three million dollars a year. At a coach who has taken a situation. And I know not technically in turnstile count made it worse but certainly made the basketball program in every other. The way you measure ranked worse end in here to barring a massive surprise yes the turnstile count will also be worse. And convenient day it is. Exclude certain. It's a processor can you seek football doing everything right by us as my time and their their their their separate ways seems to me to create. Assertion that wanted to win at an incredibly well there are people out front you with an eye level that brings people out that there's no question that you. In the end the rate of it was the biggest as high as it was. What is that although the date and file or is everything straight and that. Up while all the historical reason never wanted to win and our level. They're not winning a high level of ironically you're Ed and it'll be here they expect when our level. This year and I mean he for the people who are the most supplement they don't arts and we to seeing it yet another update would get dot article and it didn't like art and they're saying. Yeah he might win twenty games Gary and I pay up to the opposite. Optimist. So and that doesn't bring him. Leopard basketball when importing into building and IP which would be great year for the team. Given their roster. Back and bring him back there according to a higher level bring people academia during an act the part that to me it's computing at what. People like Bruce Pearl totally understand. Is in the world if you are not ordering our level. And yet. Which their two other ways to get people call one irons. Recruiter that stopped at pebble according you have to have have recruiting classes to get people pumped into jobs to be a welcome bit Clemens. You by a year after job laughed it didn't call off. Really dramatically at all at all right there awhile if you are even though he wasn't getting necessarily the result people walk there. Those same result pajama getting. You can recruiting classes to every single year that would hope that they'll finally people disarmed beleaguered party or another that they are public. Don't want a critical after that it was being partnered with the you know create your your chest orange got it. The equivalent of being out there engage the community whipping up enthusiasm. And John cal Perry and then who's given away the big screen TV in the upper back all of our. And and how people view the entire universe that they had the wedding cake care of itself. We are in now and I find it wouldn't take care of itself will take care of itself particularly when you're not what and so. So yeah. I think literally if you got to look at numbers right now 0% of the crater in capital under Josh. Now underdog but we don't open it up but you've gotten hero of the ball like of any meaningful balked at a for further you have a new fresh lease on life. And you've got zero. Energy and momentum. From what should have been very. Absolutely. Up a catalyst for people to come back to build. Your point about Josh he inherited a situation where they weren't going to win a lot but he was also. He'll coming off of the cal Perry momentum and then there was this sort of said some on the fan base at least initially that we're we wanna prove. That this wasn't just about John cal Perry so we'll support that team. But then Il in November. Of his first year as the Memphis coach he's signed a recruiting class that featured. Istar. Prospect will Barton. I star prospect Joseph Jackson. McDonald's all American July kindred Forestar prospect tar black Forestar prospect Chris croft in other words within. Weeks. Of his first season at the University of Memphis he had 585. Star or four star prospects. Set to would roll. That generates excitement that bleeds into the next year and that at. People people that they are getting into one years wanted to got a lot lovable guy. And at your Beck you're gonna have to get an elder at Brent. Right it yet don't they that's what you don't. You don't say well I'm not gonna bring new season ticket you say got depth we're doing season ticket scuttled a little some. Because of next year low bullet we got to read a ridiculous recruiting class. He owed to McDonald all Americans. 35 start 25 star prospect and three more Forestar prospects. It's going to be rolled. A title that season didn't go perfectly but they did go to the instantly tourniquet they got an auto bid and they went to four straight years in the attend it's like sort of state maintained. Until people's expectations like. Outweighed the reality and people got frustrated by that and it of course in the final two years and are just that the actual on the core product. Though the Lofton that's ultimately what led to to them by Il paying him to go way. But my point is like. There was for every year of the judge pastor era. Until the very end there was hope. At the very least I hope you got to got to appoint the tiger affair where you were like Josh pastor can't coach it will never be Michigan State. But there was still a roster that provided hole. Like Dylan won here were people wanna prior Josh were they were ranked in the top 25 literally every week of the cigarette. And it's why I actually make them yes and your article about technical centers his future role with the the bubble. But it's one actually to me in the end emotionally. That was at 444. Josh is because what he laughed. Like that was the final it is like you put it on one guy and there are a lot of factors that regular I don't really old and or got. But that was the moment when it seemed the media or one out of the like you could no longer. What Austin Nichols who came here wanted to be the next Penny Hardaway. Who was. You know freshman of the year it would put up big points through the whatever when you I want a league matter the more complicated reason that went into it. I have people out all the Pavano it's truth of the matter is he lap. Once the whole point quarter lag and that's plan. Just the year went out of Kabul government and the people there you're like that that's what their immediate and it's literally cut in half. And some question as I actually you'd think so. So I mean I I I don't believe it will be interest thing. I mean hardly expect that it could be up this year and given the events of the off season. Find our I would he's done Qaeda. You do wonder. Even if some date they're good like cultured. But I think the worst attendance are principle that my 81 something like. Thirty odd years now anyway 198182. Yeah air. Now what happened then to get that back I came here you know well after that but that was let them but the toll it occur basically have been about it happened. You really haven't you meet people. So all of the people. Get a while they go look at the single greatest player who met the basketball history. Yet they're like oh really they just need a guy who's gonna be like 83 of wartime all of Mae or transcendent player. Always have had that link their life what it was equally and that has got to upgrade their clothes. And walk by the time it was very branch. And and that group what they've always been blocked sang. I actually think there will be voting against Ottawa that will be but I don't believe that like attendant it's forever doomed to be 6000 or whatever I'll really as a real you know. We operate in the streets. But it is certainly have a low that's why right now. They're running the deficit it would. Almost impossible to imagine. That there that it did not I think it's a good book yet so that the bought a purple ball crooked pretty good already occurred about Oprah all the football program. And it looked bigger deficit that's what program governor account problems. Almost scholarships but. Definitely it's one of the reasons that there is there an apparent effect there have. And they're now paying a coach in excess of three million dollars a year with no. Reasonable chance to get an 800000 dollar payment that they could theoretically get from the Memphis Grizzlies. If actual turnstile count exceeded 101000 on average for the season meaning that. One way or another you stack it on top of each other it's a four million dollar Tubby Smith. Yeah so minute the next got what I reflect what each Forbes have been bringing in 101000. Andy Kennedy brain and 101000 or whatever I don't know audience. I don't know if Eddie they're heavy nothing's guaranteed but like I really and a night of saying this the pile ought to be mean but given exactly where we are right now with the Memphis basketball program. I do not think there's a guy. Who could have it in this place in in worse shape right now. I do believe that. Tonight I just it's it's honestly it's just. Go go go let it get copied to pick up pick up all the right after jobs right. Well it got a little programmable little more recruiting itself right I don't think he whatever recruiting issues or whatever else but it knocked the other whipping up and do the other there wasn't there yet. I I do think. Given that that what they needed was. You know what they needed was already had a heart bumper you know that won't get a big media pitch the right read electroshock therapy in 88 I definitely needed and and that's not the kind of coach he hit. It's just not he's not the whip up enthusiasm with recruiting and excitement that whatever I think they are best but this is secure America basic competence. It would not you know is not what. What what brings people out look at the look at me now. Look at look at the marble all of like whatever that's to bring people out is it's flat and the Pope and the all the that's I mean let her become the first story. That they did do weird small. Market and in the market not a different particular day it was all about recruiting. Into the other again. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sort of paraphrasing here since it could you know if we don't get because we want we we don't remember we to court the next guy he's been getting a local talk like. Well that's so popular that the bullet that doesn't create excitement. No doubt. You know I can do that at certain schools. Not at the University of Memphis if your if your approach to the University of Memphis job. Is too. Go after whoever if you don't get on just get somebody else in the tournament to a team. Like to hear you do you don't understand the job you have in the natural recruiting base that you have there's a kid that. Who last night at the stepped curry camp was so impressive that fray address jealous said he's dominated to top 102008. And. More than disparate thing he's sitting there embarrassed that you got 400 yard. There's a kid. From here in the area Tyler Harris. Who did that last night and less than a month ago when Margie and auto asked him about the universe to Memphis recruiting him. He said and I quote meant this isn't really recruiting me that hard. That's a problem. Right now that the problem of events I'm curious I'm not advocating that certainly out there. But the hell what may not like you people picker getting criticized. And given all the money back then I'm gonna go I'm a little put gulp. Rent and then they said. Or hired any hurdle yet. What would that do that number. Here's what I would do immediately honest to god. If you could I forget what I would do. Am I too well what would have a better record of what would do that didn't. Under a pirate any. Would would spike quickly out if any were willing to get out there and actually talk can be visible he doesn't really like doing that stuff. You know he Brett. It but like if he would do it then it spikes immediately here's what makes spiked more and this would be the convict condition and the only condition. Under which I gave Penny Hardaway the job. I say the jobs yours. Here's what you do. Before we even announce I would actually meet with him in early February. I'd I'd say your entire east. I think it's possible that we got maker Coke hinge at the Internet here because our team sought the recruiting class sucks yeah tended says it's at a historically low level. We just wouldn't acknowledge a mistake and we want you to get the job here's the condition now. I want to get the best buy players and team penny committed almost immediately after what we're telling us now yeah because. Right now you're just there some basketball coach and you're just high school coach figure it out. We telling you to do what we tell you any day except figure it out. If you can tell us we could introduce you on in March in an April you've got commitments from. You know keep them on the 2019 class thirst for war. Top eighty kids who play for team pity right. If you get beat three that would verbal commitments while that we can tell our fan base that not only have we hired our proudest alarm. But also somebody who's already secured a top five recruiting class like that's coming over a month later you got the job. Aid immediately. The entire year. Conversation about the University of Memphis has been flipped. What do you think they'd stop 2000 more feet and pick a player. Yes yeah yes and here's why there are people right now who have the money who love the university who are renewing tickets I've got friends they love the university that does CN their blue shirt. They get the money they have disposable income they just did not spinning it like me you fair. Multi billionaire. Who just you know like it might definition he can he gets by. Tickets he set up not knowing much either ticket I don't care anymore. Now people are again to beg the re Medicare. Dynamic and get in the top level group. That's why it like if you're gonna go that way you have to do it in March because otherwise. You miss on the 2019 class that's gonna signed in November of 2008 team. And you've got four top eighty kids in the class of 2019. Who played for Tim team penny they have no real ties to the Memphis community it doesn't mean they'll get all of them. But you hire Penny Hardaway and telling don't try to get all of them and come back with some. Did you got the enthusiasm safe thing that's happening right now Missouri. But her best bud and awful like eight to forty some the past three years of the SEC. They fire coach Tyre comes a Maarten he makes a higher it's Michael Porter junior Gibson's brother. Gets another kid they got three top forty players set to enroll. Missouri fans tweet me every day they can be more excited about basketball. That's only good at all it take you interpret it can turn it you have a leak. You can turn it in you can really turn it in a matter much and you could especially turned in a matter of months. When what you're considering doing. Is hiring Penny Hardaway. Who is in charge. Of the in the summer months a four top eighty national recruits who were gonna sign letters of intent erratically in November 2019. That's the recruiting class just like Josh had that had that Joseph Jackson part black Christie offered recording Catholics and there was like perfect timing. That that class is available to a University of Memphis coach. But probably not available. To Tubby Smith because he's already burned with the loss and so you can't get Chandler. And DJ related Jamison can give DJ and I don't know that they'll be able to get any of the other ones either but a different coach specifically penny for the sake of this conversation. He could get that done I think so shore. I'll just order just think about.
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