AUDIO: Wes Rucker on Geoff Calkins Show discussed UT Coaching Search/Butch Jones

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Monday, November 13th

AUDIO: Wes Rucker on Geoff Calkins Show discussed UT Coaching Search/Butch Jones

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Wes Rucker. Senior writer revolves 247. Also with the Knoxville news sentinel a busy man right now I mean come on Twitter at. Wes Rucker 247 read all his stuff at balls 247 he joins me now what it's how idea. A larger predators were. Well as an eventful day a long time common. Your thoughts on the day let's let's before we turn to what's next your thoughts on the on the decision to fire him. And how everything went down yesterday. Jeb I think that it that this was a decision there was going to come the end of the season. And look things completely off the rails and things completely fell off the rails there and the user Tennessee didn't really. How much choice. You know Lee it I think during it would dog day being in there I think he wanted so yeah it Cuba. Think in his first year deity he didn't wanna be embarrassed about our. It's funny like the one man's fallen off the rails I would argue that they fell off the rails against Georgia like at what point would do your your damn far off the rails but Matt. I mean that was may be further off trails Saturday but is the visit to Kentucky's off the rails losing to George loved the rails. They certainly. They certainly want off the rails I'm OK and then we know the pledge immediately started calling recruits and said get the hell out of here. What do you think of that. Yeah you know I. I think it's hardly surprising you know I think did that this is. It is just that the way the bush got ideas he's got it kind of I'm Eric Cameron brother or someone else he's not the first person to be like that. Blood I think he is like that hand and so that. That not surprising to me I'll he knew that this you know Lugar if things went this way that's kind of how do you agree. It's finish testing I'm I'm of two minds on the one hand I think to myself. Let's and he he got fired and anyone who gets fired no matter what the circumstances are there are going to be. A little better. And he also. To put a good face on and he feels like he is an obligation to the kids who he recruited. Who he believes came because he of his because of him. And so he calls and says okay. We don't know what's gonna the next guy is gonna want to do you should try to find another way that would be that the positive way to look at at the negative why would be. He failed utterly in his last year it's not like he didn't get every chance in the world he did. It's it's indisputable the had a guy he's getting eight million dollars he doesn't have to continue to submarine that recruiting class that would be the other way to look at it. You think every coach would do what he did or do you think that's what. I got sick a lot would do that but I don't think all I think that's butch I'll always kind of set that. Any candidate it is important when you say it but he has accomplished our football guy that's sort of a way that. He operates based stock of those stink over a couple of years ago he said that. Opening about the back pocket and think they'll list you parliament you know more metaphorically but he wasn't kidding. That's how he is he is a guy who does proper get things he is the guy to. It sorted driven by that that sort of nobody thought I would get this far show all these people. That's sort of what what got him to this one his career PGE is that. That you know five foot seven former walk on water cheaper college you. You know I think kind of bank your bank is quite on to do is start coaching business can't break box basically like all lawyer and Turks you know he had. He worked his way up and have always respected his work ethic and nothing else sent and I think that that sort of on the show these people. Is sort of Westergren his whole career so. Yeah I mean I think getting you guys do if he could torpedo the saying in his quake I think we do that because I think that's just Darby up. Do you believe he will get another job somewhere at a decent job somewhere. I think it decent job is possible. I don't know that they'll get a good job certainly nothing gonna bring in your ear formerly called appear so. It says he's open they don't give great good amount to kind of offset that buyout like about it that's probably not happen public. I think the way that that he actually get somewhere. He can you know sort of build a program that you give people reenergize. I think there's value. Not being. Because it helped in Indiana I don't think any kind of high profile job is the right current job for him personally but. I think you know socialism. And athletic. The problems are immune to you know but lacks a little like that I think he could he could satisfy it state the right kind of spark or open I could see him be that guy that it's a lot. I kept at a Wes Rucker from balls to force seven eager drew to stuff over there also the maximum is similar follow. Of course on Twitter at west record to 47 on to the future. In the job let's let's go through some of the big names first and I'll get your reaction. We'll start with the one that people love to talk about the John Terry was asked about and smiled when he was being funny no commented that and that would be gender would. Yet yacht being bit there's there's junker name that you people on here is so what they think it's beetle you should they just things in my local gas. That it will happen let you know at all. I think it into the day you'd get by either don't see that happening I don't think. I think patient column I think they will it they have already. And I think. Gruden being group and I think he is he won't do anything to keep any like saying Hispanic media like to hear a tank but. Ultimately I just don't see him come back to that they calculate to the college level because Erica well. Do you think the same thing make the call but he's not coming of Chip Kelly. I think your code would listen. But but I don't think it in the day you'd go I think he wants Kirk. I think he he clearly has a preference I think that he was stuck there on the West Coast. And I think it be licences to you right yes he might be Florida. Are nothing has he been skiing because. Since he's already kind of been recruiting to system a little bit. And that sort of up in park skeletons he's been trying to do our principal at that. That sort of organ thing and what they try to do that so yeah I mean I think is that you took us a little bit about. OK so that gets us to Dan Mullen Pete Hamel had a piece up yesterday where he said he didn't think that Mullen who is a lot of returners coming back next year. If the north of four million dollars a year. That he didn't think he'd take Tennessee. You like the Dan Mullen idea and do you think he would listen. I think Gamal and now apparently could lose the past few times Tennessee has had a court. Our demo what do walked on par COLT to get here to take your. Now what does that mean he'll do it again right now. It does but I think or at what it in the seat could pay her. With this sort of upside the cookie program does have an answer well or what he's got what he's done state. If you go to a place like cussing and get the same kind of you know look these are coaches who model the same way they he's done device like Pacific states. Well he could be competing you know compete for championships at Tennessee I think we all know the upside to that you program the car upside the state program so. Well he might be leaving. You know a team we go to the worst team right now I think he'd be going to overall a better program and I think that's why he do that I got I got respect for Pete but. I think Gamal would be crazy not to look at Tennessee another question is where would Florida kind of beat them to the punch there aren't any lately. But it I think that you are capitalists that I think yes for that it would. You mentioned what Tennessee can pay him. What do you think Tennessee is well and a guy does he makes at Mississippi State he makes four point 275. Sure I think you'd get to the bottom line is demo earlier Richard rant here figured a couple of months no matter what but you know I. I don't know their exact dollar figure in my head but I've been told there's gonna see these to pay this money it will. Now Tennessee's history is that it sort of paid beat a B plus money up front. And then if you go earn any money they'll pay you any money but they don't usually do that up front now this is the first time. And there's been a social curry so maybe he handled it differently but. Turkey demo has not really been to go make an a plus our right off the bat so. I think it that you need to go to the six million dollar ring show I think you would do that I don't know what Arnold look at that. Gary Patterson is a name that's been thrown out thoughts. I don't think Gary Patterson what would lead PCI think he's kind of he's got a nice scanner. Cottage industry over there I think he's already got a statute there. Or championships spare. I don't think especially now that that program where it is in conference then. I don't think he would do it personally you know I think it always part Gary Patterson a Specter on the shoulder go into a bigger place like that but. I think he's made species such pure plays I don't think. All rights and wasting care most of the big names. What other names are you hearing which do you particularly like. I think there is some some possibilities there to the demo stuff I think there's a question. You'd be interest at I think another guy who definitely would be interest and Scott frost. And I think he's the guy duke. Probably the number one almost a reasonable works. You know the problem is Florida might be really outcome prosecute her under orders so. Either way out Tennessee might become and how kind of goes beyond you know the bridesmaid at PO I. I think up crosses the guy that I would hurt the car we're talking quite honestly I think just going to is the guy I would talk to now I don't know that he. Would leave attacks so soon and I think you could argue that where he is he's got a better chance to the well the order conceit so. I don't know that he would do it. But I think it got down your neck or it's and or developing Garrett is on Tennessee's great are now does that mean conceivable kicker porn search. Not necessarily particular. And if it does nothing you would listen to Tennessee and another guy the couple while cardinal coach so or hours couple while car or as well attacker organ. Our he's definitely nutrition position and only surmise. He said well yeah ice supposedly miserable or if he just waited at South Florida for another year he might become the Florida job he might still many of my dealer running for that. Seems unlikely but yeah I think that's hinged at an interesting name. Then there's an and then you know again we've got a lot of serious that would that would make sense to Lynn. The other one kind of the wild card and beer. Would be correction out of the former. Record straight she's now when that book that she's now that DC at Ohio State I think he's a guy who. Would love to get the job that was my opportunity to talk to them out of touch quickstep or I don't know. And he can't we're not exactly be the thrilled about that higher he's the guy who is is that the except as he's probably done that second or third tier but he definitely somewhat or Tennessee. It doesn't do because what either directly or you can't you can't deny that what he took over and what sort of became of that program. You know when he got there. I think that's a to listen to and and then the other name I guess toward the end that was actually in a paper appears here I think recovery dot resurrecting pink purple and green. And that's your cues. They got people's attention. Although they're collapsing a little down the stretch here I'm the ultimately the that the timing questions our interest because. You have. I think most people would acknowledge that Tennessee is behind Florida in terms of of who gets first. Right and so are to some extent Tennessee has to wait for Florida. And then Florida may be waiting if for example they. If they want archived Kelly they can go higher to delegates he's just and TV Booth now right they got to get a they have they have to get approval from. From the commissioner of the SEC. But they do is go higher Chip Kelly that's so they want higher they guard ship Cali if they want higher if they get Jack and good about actual volume guard Jon Gruden. But if you wanna get Scott frost. He has evidently set I'm not talking anyone and maybe that doesn't mean is this is officially his pit. Before the the American athletic conference championship game which they will presumably plan which I think is December. Third so Florida's waiting for Scott frost and you have to wait for Florida. That puts you at its is sort of an interesting. It'll be interesting to see how the timing of all of this plays out. Am given the very and then given the fact that. Three weeks after that you've got the early signing period. It has yet. Yeah act I think that bad that hole no one wanted to beat did the test to pace for this whole. Early signing period saying both Florida and Tennessee kind of guy or they aren't had to make these decisions so. Yeah I mean I can see a lot of times are now we all rollercoaster third parties to great all that stuff bite kit to. You know a serious blow the coach you usually need to go get permission from our current record at sort of those are the proper thing to do. And I could see right now with this early time period I think I could she'd ever truck sank sure you can talk to my coach. After the urine during periods over you know and I think there's a lot of different things that are going to be at play here that have been at play in the past and you know if somebody wants to hire a coach an eco truly wants to go there they will find a way to make it work even if it's behind the scenes at first but. Yeah I'm I mean I think this whole thing it's fascinating because. It if you tennis scene now it does complicate things shall sort also the market because for the secret beat. You know and a name on this or will you talk Jong I know I'll argue it's probably a modest job. But at an A plus job like Florida is out there and then back I'll pick things that make sure. No longer you're not a big oil on the market and that's what go to the market when you're sure August. Auction there and says he couldn't do that right now so. They are what they are right now but it is that means they have to pay more at ease they captured by I wore ties to area. Well that's what you gotta do but I would say there's John Curry I have always color the pretty sharp guy. And certainly not infallible guide but it by the guy who. I think he knows what he's doing so will he go out there and make it up big cas statement higher I don't know. Well but do I think you'll get guy that he thinks is best for the job I do think that I really do you think based on mission street. I think he's the guy to. If he thinks something is right he doesn't care so somebody illustrate straw so I think kill kids. A period coaches just you know. Will that be. The kind that you know old Walter might help Florida no intention yes I think we all know that that that's a very. Very very very unlikely situation. It's fishing the but the timing like let's just take the case in my arm let's say Tennessee decides what do they strike out on some of the big people. Or let's say it's Arkansas Mike or album really matter who it is in my corral so. They say they call combo and instead listen. First Michael sexton. Six this of course Roloson that's what six mr. that's the duke is is there a lesson reds rustle us and how much money we thought and and so they'll have that conversation sexual talked the doorbell at Saturn of delegates and interest marvell will say. Yes interest dead. But I'm not gonna talk to anyone until after the FC east in in person I can't knock me flying off the Knoxville or maybe meet in a hotel room John Curry. Until this. And until the conference championship game is over at that point I'm happy to talk to you. I don't think it would be reasonable. And they and so that they call Bowen and they say listen we'd love to talk to. Nor valve. I don't think it would be reasonable for Bowen to say. You can talk to him after the early signing day is over. I think could be totally reasonable for him to say you can talk to him but we're having a dream season here let's wait till after the after the in the conference championship game on December 3. And honestly I think. It's just a week after the season ends I think team should be willing to wait and I don't know maybe that made it may be all be in place maybe they will be having secret. Whether it's nor valor from anywhere picture person. They they will be having secret many meetings and hotels. How do you expect that stuff the player. That's a good question Jeff and and that could come down to counting each person's. Trying to individual kind of moral fiber you know second. It does does someone have more loyalty to the place they are now and secure their coach now or. Do they put their own career for everything and then. I don't know that I think that's one of those situations where a lot of say oh that's what I would do but we're not in that situation before in that situation. We might do the sexy pick some of these guys are due on because we wanted to get a quote dream jobs you know nobody wants to work. To be you know I wanted to be right there that B program I want it state by Serb but it was to beat. Or they can compete for national championship so yeah I mean I think that that's something. To keep an eye on now all aware I'd like to say that someone like let's just rent or say doorbell at our little. Look let's say it is that he. You know wants we all think that you would want to do the right thing by those kids and maybe you do and I don't always seem like a pretty good god made equal it by. Knowing the ladies' coaches operate I just know they would listen. Because that's just how they power now. And you may only get one shot like Tennessee jobs not coming up again while you're hot that Arkansas does not come up again wire. And so you don't wanna say Al talked in three weeks and the schools say. Fine we'll have by three weeks we'll have our guy thank you very much we guard Jeff Brohm. I'm a little you know what that to happen it's a difficult it is a tricky situation. I have yet to pick one name V most likely man to be the next head coach of the university Tennessee. I can best think it did you'd be cheating I think prospered all I have is did you guys too fast and that's right now have future. And and Florida can't think problem absolutely right so I pay a western great to do love your stuff and what should read his stuff. Over at files to 47 and the national news sentinel thumb on Twitter at west west record to foursome is less. Project but you're so the veteran stayed on him like any other lots. All right in its case pat thank you. He says that every radio appearance any when he goes on both so. Anyway I that is Wes Rucker.
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